If you've done a double take while perusing the Bundesliga table, it isn't lying.
Borussia Dortmund are in the relegation zone after 10 league games and that word 'crisis' is being bandied about.
The 2011 and 2012 Bundesliga champions tasted league defeat yet again at Bayern Munich on Saturday in what was a largely disappointing defeat for Jurgen Klopp's side.
The manager remains heavily supported by the fans and the board. But what has gone wrong and led to a crisis of confidence in the Bundesliga at odds with their Champions League form?
"It is almost getting to the stage where it's worrying now. They have a good enough squad to easily finish in the Top Four. They're still only four points off fourth placed Hoffenheim. It's not a disaster. But where is the next win coming from? They play Monchengladbach next weekend, who are joint-second and yet they were a bit unlucky against Bayern," said Ben, who also picked out the issues and player departures that may have led to the current crisis.
Lyttleton also spoke about the change in fortunes which have followed the Clasico with Barcelona on the slide and Real Madrid on the up, analysing where Luis Enrique's Barca went wrong in the 1 - 0 defeat to Celta Vigo at the weekend.
He also picked out Eduardo Berizzo as a Bielsa disciple who out-Bielsa'ed Enrique.
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