England's pessimism when the World Cup draw was made was not solely down to a realization that they don't have a Golden Generation and never did!
It was also down to the fact that they had been named in the same group as Copa America champions Uruguay, Euro 2012 finalists Italy and Costa Rica.
But who will emerge from that Group of Death which includes three former World Champions.
On tonight's show, Italian football expert and Guardian Football Weekly regular James Horncastle was given the unenviable task of tipping the two sides to qualify for the knockout stages.
Listen to his analysis of the group and Italy's chances of progression in particular below:
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