Football management is not for the faint-hearted but even the long drawn-out process of trying to get a job in the first place can be "disheartening" as Brian Deane alluded to himself in his chat with Newstalk - especially on the far side of the Irish Sea.
The ex-England, Leeds United, Benfica and Sheffield United striker had to start his managerial career with Norwegian minnows Sarpsborg 08 FF in January 2013 where he spent two seasons and helped keep them up via the relegation playoffs in his first season before leading them to mid-table stability and a place in the Cup semi-finals.
After their safety had been secured, Deane locked himself in the dressing room toilet and the reason he did so was something he chatted to Team 33 about on this week's show.
"All that was, was it had been a tough year for me and I lost my Dad the season before and I think the other thing was it's just very stressful and I don't think people realise what it means for a coach, manager. Perhaps, you get two or three hours when you've won a game to enjoy it. After that it's gone. If you lose a game, it's probably one and a half or two days where you dissect everything, you think about everything.
I have locked myself in the changing room toilet to savour thisI always believed we would stay up.Very proud of the players #08sarpsborg
— Brian Deane (@deanobri1968) November 16, 2013
"When people think that managers don't care, believe me, it is the toughest of the tough out there because everybody hates you.
"When I was in Norway, if I won a game or we were on a good streak and I'm going to the petrol station and I'd see people looking at me and they'd give me a thumbs up and that's what it's all about. You're forever looking for that acceptance in terms of 'I'm doing a good job'.
"But if you weren't doing a good job, then nobody would look at you. It was like people would treat you like a leper so it's a tough job."
With debates over the potential for a Rooney Rule in the UK to help reduce roadblocks to ethnic minorities getting football management jobs, Deane also gave his own take on that issue.
Full interview is below and also on iTunes:
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