Former Leinster and Ireland flanker Dan Leavy joined Nathan Murphy, 13 months after he was forced to retire from rugby.
They also discuss what Leinster will have to do if they're to overcome La Rochelle in this weekend's Heineken Champions Cup final.
Dan, his brother (former Ireland 7s international) Adam, and his father Doug have launched their whiskey brand Ogham. See oghamwhiskey.com.